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Just because death is natural doesn't mean it's okay. I mean, it's never a kid to kill an animal that has, you know, an intention to keep living just to eat it I mean, especially when you can eat anything else. Well, death is a part of life and without it our entire ecosystem would collapse several living things Would starve to death because there would be massive overpopulation. Let me ask you this Why wouldn't you interfere with a predator hunting prey in the wild? Well, because it's not Exactly and not only is it natural. It's necessary to support the living I mean, everyone suffers if they don't eat meat and they're dying unless they're no supplementing heavy But a large portion of the population actually has terrible reactions to plants whereas basically nobody has a meat allergy unless, you know You can track it. Okay, but humans don't need to eat meat. I mean, we can get supplements for beef items Oh, we can get protein from peas like it's just unnecessary now. That's why it makes it, you know, immoral Sure, but humans naturally highly carnivorous diets and our health often suffers if we don't get those nutrients There's a substantial amount of population that have really bad allergies to anything other than meat yet We just normalize living with these conditions. Can you really call someone immoral for not making a choice that would harm their health? Okay, well, why is it wrong to kill your dog then? I mean, what if you're just hungry and you need those nutrients? Well, this is called the yuck factor. I mean, you may be repulsed by it, but it doesn't mean that thing is wrong or immoral Animals are euthanized all the time, but humans don't eat dogs And we we don't eat carnivores in general because they carry high rates of disease like prions which can cause neurodegeneration in humans So if I came up and shot your dog you couldn't say anything about it Well, no, because that's my dog and I wish to continue living with it. You basically just robbed me and why would you kill something if you had no reason to? Okay, well couldn't you use that logic just to murder a human? Well again, unless you have reason to know and it's in everyone's favor to protect human life I mean, it's a mutual agreement that animals just can't agree to. They mean just about any animal on earth would kill you if it favored them So we can kill coma patients. Well, no, of course that's silly because people that are living now don't want to fear, you know, Sliping into a coma and being prematurely killed by before they have the chance to wake up. No one thinks that all death is wrong Or every time something kills something else. That's immoral when something serves a necessary purpose All we can do is ensure that's human and reduce unnecessary suffering and pain