It's maddening how much we're all being manipulated to think the problem for everything is immigrants. It's absolutely not! #immigration #housing #stevenage #converation

Who do you think takes most of the houses that come up for social housing? Right, now probably immigrants. It's the immigrants that get housed. I'm struggling to get housed in. And then you've got people coming over from other countries, getting put first. Okay, so out of these 100 houses, how many do you think go to refugees? Majority of them. 60? 80%. Can I tell you the answer? Yep. It's actually just these two. Is it? Is it all farm shops, actually? That doesn't make sense. That's surprising. You even learn, don't you? So out of the last government data, there were 263,000 houses that went out for social housing and only 4,700 went to refugees. Oh, I'm very surprised at that. So what I find interesting is, in Stevenage, there are 277 homes that are long-term empty. Really? Really? And I get one. And the council does have the power to turn them into council housing, but they don't. But I don't, I don't do it live. And the government doesn't help because the powers that they give make it costly to make change it. The whole system is slow, and no one knows what they're doing. Cross the UK, in fact, there were 300,000 houses long-term empty. Really? Crazy. I don't think the biggest problem here is immigrants. No, it's not. It's a system. But you're being pushed to blame immigrants. Yeah, I see what you mean now. It's a little bit like the tactic, any fascist government would use to scare the people. So do you feel like you're being manipulated in order to blame immigrants? A little bit, yeah. How does that make you feel having that realisation? I know really a bit. I'm full. I don't know, I'm just speechless. Has this changed your mind at all about who's the first in the list for housing? Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, it has. Well, you ever blame immigrants again? No, we're in no way. You change, you change my view.